tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post1334368964404023002..comments2024-01-18T16:20:09.743+01:00Comments on Nils' Blog: Please Love MeNilshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06468755466492675831noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-44639281272558594642011-08-26T00:08:48.356+02:002011-08-26T00:08:48.356+02:00I don't even know why I am talking to you, Syl...I don't even know why I am talking to you, Syl. You probably never dated women :)Nilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468755466492675831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-9674902428903963722011-08-25T23:50:43.218+02:002011-08-25T23:50:43.218+02:00"...And that's sadly, not what she says s..."...And that's sadly, not what she says she wants"<br /><br />TBH I think you just need to meet different women (or read different books!). the best things in life aren't complicated.<br /><br />und mehr sage ich dazu nicht mehr ^^Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04473554645340972749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-53815987513391149622011-08-25T22:58:15.734+02:002011-08-25T22:58:15.734+02:00You don't stop being you if you learn to play ...You don't stop being you if you learn to play basketball, and you don't stop being you if you improve your social skills, Syl.<br /><br />If you pretend to be somebody else, I can tell you that the female brain is exceptionally good at detecting it. The attempt will fail.<br /><br />You need to be yourself. You just must not talk about the wrong things at the wrong time. And you must know what your counterpart actually wants. And that's sadly, not what she says she wants (that would be too easy).Nilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468755466492675831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-20287087554261506652011-08-25T22:22:34.208+02:002011-08-25T22:22:34.208+02:00Oh no worries, I've seen it.
we've had ma...Oh no worries, I've seen it. <br />we've had many interesting discussions in the past, so I felt as a long-term reader I'll just leave you this as a personal, well-meant feedback (also in regard to other potential reader reactions). :)<br /><br />as for dating, I believe there is such a thing as 'over-thinking matters'. the moment you need a plan someone else thought out for you, you stop being you. and that hardly ever works for long-term relationships (for fast sex I'm sure, but then that's not the hard part now is it). there might be 'some' pros to a book, but for the most part they're cringe-worthy, pop-culture rubbish. but maybe that realization is the whole point in reading them? hehe...<br /><br />your retirement theory...am sure was true when my grandmother was young! alas, both me and my partner need to work the same and we're equally lazy gamers besides that, so sitting home ftw! I'll take my gameboy over play-boy anytime! ;)Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04473554645340972749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-30924514509810217702011-08-25T22:03:05.813+02:002011-08-25T22:03:05.813+02:00I wrote an answer to your question, you know that ...I wrote an answer to your question, you know that Syl, don't you ?<br /><br />On topic, most people have relationships that just work. None of the participants need to think about any "dating theory", because it just works. The man doesn't always say "yes" and has the respect of the woamn. And the woman doesn't always say "yes" and has the respect of the man. There is balance. <br />This balance is often destroyed when the man retires, by the way. He suddenly loses the respect his wife, because he sits at home all day ;)<br /><br />Anyway, you'd be surprised, like most people are, how effective men can become when they focus on becoming better .. playboys. If done well, few woman can (=want to) resist. But I feel I won't be able to prove that to you. That's ok :)Nilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468755466492675831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-2497521287493797892011-08-25T21:56:48.479+02:002011-08-25T21:56:48.479+02:00Mmmm...that might not be sexist, no - that's p...Mmmm...that might not be sexist, no - that's probably just general, superficial discrimination. but the assumption that all women are the same, easily manipulated and gullible horde (as many of these lol-dating guides for men /cough losers promote), sure is. or the generalization that all beautiful women are the same or look for the same, just because pop-culture likes to portray exactly 1 type of pretty woman with no brains. gosh, am I glad neither me nor my partner were ever into those kind of "games", despite what we might look like. <br /><br />I'm sure there was a good point here somewhere Nils, but I wish you had chosen for some different, less problematic analogies to make it. I think cool, sober analytics suit you better than the loud, scandalous tabloids approach. ;) <br /><br />Ignoring everything that could easily make me frown here and concentrating on what you meant to say; I agree that devs generally should not look for approval too much, but need to have the masterplan up there and know whats "good for the player". most of all, think long-term. that's the topic I suggested to you a while ago, wasn't it - how much say should players ever have...Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04473554645340972749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-81883702684951795552011-08-25T14:38:08.063+02:002011-08-25T14:38:08.063+02:00@ Spinks
I don't feel Nils' comment was s...@ Spinks<br /><br />I don't feel Nils' comment was sexist at all. <br /><br />As a woman who has been single for quite some time and who has explored the finer points of the dating scene, you can't tell me that you would honestly NOT treat two different people representing opposite extremes of attractiveness the same. <br /><br />You can say it's shallow to do that and so on, but we've all done it. We have all had someone approach us that we may not have been terribly attracted to and have had to let them down in some way. Some people find their overweight neighbors to be attractive and others don't. It's their individual choice, with regards to what appeals to them. <br /><br />It's not sexism. It's knowing what you want and being able to recognize that a certain someone just won't cut it for you. I see nothing wrong with that.<br /><br />I think it's way worse to lead the overweight neighbor on, when you have no intentions of going through any kind of courtship with them. <br /><br />Sorry if I went on a bit of a rant here.<br /><br />>.<Oestrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18306127130817558976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-58380289464796051952011-08-25T14:33:11.993+02:002011-08-25T14:33:11.993+02:00I love the ideas in this post and the last, but I ...I love the ideas in this post and the last, but I don't think the analogy works. <br /><br />The situation isn't so much like the guy in a bar trying to draw the attention of that one perfect girl, its more like the guy at the week long outdoor concert where there are thousands of willing girls, and the goal is to sleep with as many of them as possible. In that case, the guy correctly buys drinks for as many girls as possible (or just lies and says there will be siege warfare at release ... er ... I mean that he's with one of the bands), and he will succeed.<br /><br />It would be nice if developers had some motivation to treat players like desirable and confident women (or men), but we don't behave that way. We play the desperate junkie looking for our next fix, and that's how we are treated.John Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13904635378293419363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-15151968426649314252011-08-25T10:01:32.317+02:002011-08-25T10:01:32.317+02:00I'm not saying that it's ok, or even fair,...I'm not saying that it's ok, or even fair, Spinks. I am saying that that's how the world works.<br /><br />If you treat the girl with low (sexual) self confidence the same way you treat the arrogant girl, you will fail. She will be be offended, while the arrogant girl will feel challenged.<br /><br />And, just like Salvaenus pointed out, this works both ways. It's not fair, and it is often morally wrong. I hate it at times, just like everybody else. But it's the way it is.<br /><br />Anyway, more important that my analogies is the question of how much of it can/needs to be transferred to MMORPGs.Nilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468755466492675831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-61103954110499886222011-08-25T08:50:06.724+02:002011-08-25T08:50:06.724+02:00I don't see this as sexism, Beautiful women tr...I don't see this as sexism, Beautiful women treat overweight guys from next door differently as well. It's more of a pretty versus not so pretty argument. I think what Nils is trying to say is that developers should develop THEIR game and if it has merit then players will play it. The same could be said for human relationships, tired of getting dumped all the time, quit trying so hard to please and be yourself. Somewhere out there is the person looking for who you are and not what you are trying to be.<br /><br />SalvSalvaenushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11154775137537706372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801344413612447717.post-86068393741234941012011-08-25T07:32:35.636+02:002011-08-25T07:32:35.636+02:00The question is not whether devs treat players wel...The question is not whether devs treat players well but why YOU think it's ok to treat 'the overweight girl from next door' differently to 'the supermodel.'<br /><br />You lost a reader with this one, have fun with your sexism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com